Apple Logic Studio [OLD VERSION]
by Apple
![Apple Logic Studio [OLD VERSION]](/images/Apple-Logic-Studio-OLD-VERSION-B000VY7HTM-L.jpg)
|
Our Price: $499.00 Availability: Usually ships in 24 hours Buy Used and New: from $325.00 (click here) Category: Software See more product details and other editions |
|---|
Software Reviews of Apple Logic Studio [OLD VERSION]
Customer Review: Brilliantly Perfect...but requires Intel Processor
Summary: 5 Stars
This is the most solid music software I've ever used - it barely moves my CPU meter with heavy plug-in's instantiated on 15 tracks (w/ 4 gigs of ram) - and it's tremendously stable; I've been using it for 8 hour sessions w/ Rewire for months and have had no problems. However, I also installed on a G5 and it simply wasn't coded for PPC processors (it's obvious it was an afterthought). Apple probably saw no reason to dedicate engineering resources to a fully stable port of Logic for PPC - as most pro users end up upgrading hardware anyway (and it's incidental incentive to drive their hardware business). If you're considering the upgrade to Intel Macs - this program is such a steal that it might be worth it. I'm only using the IMac 2.8 ghz and it screams - making the whole experience far more fluid and enjoyable. So - if you're still on PPC - hold off, you're better off w/ Logic 7. If you've already made the switch to Intel, you're in for a treat!Customer Review: Logic 8 great for either Intel and/or G5 PPCs
Summary: 5 Stars
Logic 8 is great. I have it running nicely on a MacBook Pro 17" running Leopard 10.5.1. It also runs great on my iMac G5 PPC running OS X Tiger 10.4.11. I still have Logic 7 on the iMac and it runs nicely as well. It is quite a fantastic piece of software. And at a bargain price. As it comes with really 3 main apps (Logic 8, SoundTrack, and Mainstage plus a number of nice utilities) and all 5 of the loop packs that originally sold for $100 each. Logic tho is difficult to learn in that it has some much capability and power.
I would recommend this highly to any user of Logic Pro 7 running G5s and/or Intel-based macs. Since I can run either Logic 8 or 7 on my PPC G5 I am not quite sure what the other reviews are complaining about performance issue are. I have experience none. But then again I don't record 5 plus real time musician and numerous realtime audio instruments jams simultaneously either. So a grain of salt is to be taken here.
Mickster
Customer Review: I went back to Logic 7!!!
Summary: 1 Stars
I found the UI to be painfully sluggish. On my 2.3GHz Dualcore G5 with 4GB RAM Logic 7 was super snappy and responsive. Now, with Logic 8, when I try to scroll a window or move a fader it takes a second to react, and usually by the time it realizes I'm trying to scroll, I've gone way past what I was trying to look at. It's especially bad when I'm trying to write automation. It's not smooth anymore, but instead it jumps around.
I haven't even touched the new features yet, because I can't get the basics to work anymore. All in all, I'm not impressed Apple! I've gone back to 7 until this all gets worked out.
Customer Review: New UI is nice... otherwise it's a disaster on my 3 Macs
Summary: 1 Stars
I've been using Logic since version 5, then 6.4, 7.1, and 7.2. Other than infrequent stings by Core Audio Overloads on 7.2, it's been a great ride.
So, I naturally upgraded to Logic Studio.
Some clarification about what Studio is, for those of you who will be coming from Logic Pro 7:
* Logic Pro 7 with a new UI, and a few new features introduced, and a few
removed. This is NOT a major rewrite of the business logic underneath the application, so don't expect that.
* Mainstage. New application. You'll either use it or you won't.
* Sound Track Pro. Already written application for video soundtracks. You'll either use it, or you won't.
* 5 Garage Band jam packs.
The following are marketing mechanisms only:
* Studio Instruments as a separate entity. If you have 7, you already have these, with a few reworks to Ultrabeat and EXS editor... surround updates to some if you need that.
* Studio Effects as a separate entity. If you have 7, you already have these, with the exception being Delay Designer, which as I said really is EXCELLENT.
* Studio Sound Library as a separate entity. If you have 7, you have these, with the exception being the 5 garageband jam packs.
Nothing wrong with advertising, I suppose, and Apple is very good at it. Just make sure you know what to really expect.
So now, the verdict on Logic Pro 8 itself:
I did the UI, I really do. It's a vast improvement over Logic Pro 7.* and below, which I found quite clunky and getting dated.
But, once you get past the "wow" effect of the new UI, you'll likely realize what I did: that's basically it where Logic Pro 8 is concerned. There are some other features, but not many. It's basically Logic Pro 7 with a new UI.
Worse:
ALL of my most hated defects are still there!!! All of them. The didn't fix any of them.
And some of these are CONSIDERABLY worse in Logic Pro 8 compared to 7.2 on the same systems I've been using.
- CORE AUDIO OVERLOADS on 3 track songs!! You either get them or you don't. I've tested for 4 months now, on multiple machines with multiple interfaces and multiple audio configurations, and I can't make them go away. If you get them, they're TRULY stifling. I get them 3 or 4 times each for the first 3 or 4 projects I play. And if you do get them, be prepared for the "if not everyone gets them then they're not a bug, and it must be your system" crowd. They mean well, but they're convinced, incorrectly, that it's not Logic Pro... it's you or your system (consequently, a system that MUST be an Apple: "it just works" - whatever).
- Sometimes, dragging a region across a looped region (bumping it accidentally, or pasting to the wrong track, or dragging across tracks) causes the looped region to loop to the end of the song. Undo doesn't change this, since Logic Pro doesn't know it did anything. Once it's looped to the end, you can't drag it back from the end to where it was supposed to be... it won't let you. So... convert aliased copies to real copies, and delete them, or revert to a previously saved version of the project.
- Stopping in the middle of the song, rewinding to the beginning, and hitting play, will play back the buffered audio from your previous stop position. Goofy, and it even persists into exported audio. Kind of funny to hear while demoing your songs in your car. :-(
- Disk Too slow errors on 3 track songs!!
- MIDI/Audio Sync errors on 1 track songs
I get all of those periodically to often, with nothing but Logic Pro and the OS. No 3rd party plugins, and I've tried 5 audio interfaces now. Multiple hard drive configurations... every audio preference configuration combination you can do.
And, we even get some new bugs:
- Pink noise bursts periodically
- MIDI tracks playing back out of sync with one another
- Crashes after freezing tracks
Nearly 4 months of wasted time... $1500+ later on trying to throw horsepower and new interfaces at the problem... and I'm still going no where.
Sad. I since genuinely PREFER Logic to my other DAWs, but:
On the same machines, all of the following operate PERFECTLY:
Ableton Live 6
Ableton Live 7
Cakewalk Sonar (bootcamped)
Cakewalk Project5 (bootcamped)
I would not buy this application again, and my Logic life is probably over. I cannot in good conscience recommend this application to anybody.
Take care
Customer Review: Bang for the buck, but so buggy you'll need Orkin
Summary: 2 Stars
Logic is a very interesting program, I've used Pro Tools since 94' and I'm learning many new tricks, but Logic Studio is very unreliable software and frequently has problems with core overloads, even using only 1 or 2 virtual instruments on a MacPro 4 x 2.66 Ghz Xeon (running 10.4.11). It took three years for this update, I hope Apple will fix this coding disaster A.S.A.P.